diff --git a/mlx/backend/cuda/reduce/row_reduce.cu b/mlx/backend/cuda/reduce/row_reduce.cu
index 35f2287d6..1ae46d0a3 100644
--- a/mlx/backend/cuda/reduce/row_reduce.cu
+++ b/mlx/backend/cuda/reduce/row_reduce.cu
@@ -7,8 +7,6 @@
 
 #include <cooperative_groups.h>
 #include <cooperative_groups/reduce.h>
-#include <cub/block/block_load.cuh>
-#include <cub/block/block_reduce.cuh>
 
 namespace mlx::core {
 
@@ -83,7 +81,8 @@ struct RowReduceArgs {
 };
 
 template <typename T, typename U, typename ReduceOp, int N = 4, int M = 1>
-__global__ void row_reduce_simple(T* in, U* out, size_t n_rows, int size) {
+__global__ void
+row_reduce_simple(const T* in, U* out, size_t n_rows, int size) {
   auto grid = cg::this_grid();
   auto block = cg::this_thread_block();
   auto warp = cg::tiled_partition<WARP_SIZE>(block);
@@ -91,8 +90,8 @@ __global__ void row_reduce_simple(T* in, U* out, size_t n_rows, int size) {
   const U init = cu::ReduceInit<ReduceOp, T>::value();
   ReduceOp op;
 
-  T vals[M][N];
-  U accs[M];
+  AlignedVector<T, N> vals[M];
+  AlignedVector<U, M> accs;
   for (int i = 0; i < M; i++) {
     accs[i] = init;
   }
@@ -101,43 +100,31 @@ __global__ void row_reduce_simple(T* in, U* out, size_t n_rows, int size) {
       min(n_rows - M, static_cast<size_t>(grid.block_rank() * M));
   const size_t full_blocks = size / (block.size() * N);
   const size_t final_offset = full_blocks * (block.size() * N);
-  in += start_row * size;
+  in += start_row * size + block.thread_rank() * N;
   out += start_row;
 
-  if (size % N == 0) {
-    for (size_t r = 0; r < full_blocks; r++) {
-      for (int k = 0; k < M; k++) {
-        cub::LoadDirectBlockedVectorized<T, N>(
-            block.thread_rank(),
-            in + k * size + r * (block.size() * N),
-            vals[k]);
-        for (int j = 0; j < N; j++) {
-          accs[k] = op(accs[k], cast_to<U>(vals[k][j]));
-        }
-      }
-    }
-  } else {
-    for (size_t r = 0; r < full_blocks; r++) {
-      for (int k = 0; k < M; k++) {
-        cub::LoadDirectBlocked(
-            block.thread_rank(),
-            in + k * size + r * (block.size() * N),
-            vals[k]);
-        for (int j = 0; j < N; j++) {
-          accs[k] = op(accs[k], cast_to<U>(vals[k][j]));
-        }
+  for (size_t r = 0; r < full_blocks; r++) {
+    for (int k = 0; k < M; k++) {
+      vals[k] = load_vector<N>(in + k * size, 0);
+    }
+    for (int k = 0; k < M; k++) {
+      for (int j = 0; j < N; j++) {
+        accs[k] = op(accs[k], cast_to<U>(vals[k][j]));
       }
     }
+
+    in += block.size() * N;
   }
 
   if (final_offset < size) {
     for (int k = 0; k < M; k++) {
-      cub::LoadDirectBlocked(
-          block.thread_rank(),
-          in + k * size + final_offset,
-          vals[k],
-          size,
-          cast_to<T>(init));
+      for (int i = 0; i < N; i++) {
+        vals[k][i] = ((final_offset + block.thread_rank() * N + i) < size)
+            ? in[k * size + i]
+            : cast_to<T>(init);
+      }
+    }
+    for (int k = 0; k < M; k++) {
       for (int j = 0; j < N; j++) {
         accs[k] = op(accs[k], cast_to<U>(vals[k][j]));
       }
@@ -145,13 +132,11 @@ __global__ void row_reduce_simple(T* in, U* out, size_t n_rows, int size) {
   }
 
   __shared__ U shared_accumulators[32 * M];
-  block_reduce(block, warp, accs, shared_accumulators, op, init);
+  block_reduce(block, warp, accs.val, shared_accumulators, op, init);
 
   if (block.thread_rank() == 0) {
     if (grid.block_rank() * M + M <= n_rows) {
-      for (int i = 0; i < M; i++) {
-        out[i] = accs[i];
-      }
+      store_vector(out, 0, accs);
     } else {
       short offset = grid.block_rank() * M + M - n_rows;
       for (int i = offset; i < M; i++) {
@@ -161,17 +146,10 @@ __global__ void row_reduce_simple(T* in, U* out, size_t n_rows, int size) {
   }
 }
 
-template <
-    typename T,
-    typename U,
-    typename Op,
-    int NDIM,
-    int BLOCK_DIM,
-    int N_READS = 4>
+template <typename T, typename U, typename Op, int NDIM, int N_READS = 4>
 __global__ void row_reduce_looped(
-    T* in,
+    const T* in,
     U* out,
-    size_t out_size,
     const __grid_constant__ RowReduceArgs args) {
   auto grid = cg::this_grid();
   auto block = cg::this_thread_block();
@@ -185,36 +163,60 @@ __global__ void row_reduce_looped(
   U init = ReduceInit<Op, T>::value();
   total[0] = init;
   LoopedElemToLoc<NDIM, (NDIM > 2)> loop(args.reduce_ndim);
-  size_t full_blocks = args.row_size / (BLOCK_DIM * N_READS);
-  size_t final_offset = full_blocks * BLOCK_DIM * N_READS;
+  const size_t full_blocks = args.row_size / (block.size() * N_READS);
+  const size_t final_offset = full_blocks * (block.size() * N_READS);
 
   in += elem_to_loc(out_idx, args.shape.data(), args.strides.data(), args.ndim);
+  in += block.thread_rank() * N_READS;
 
-  for (size_t n = 0; n < args.non_row_reductions; n++) {
-    for (size_t r = 0; r < full_blocks; r++) {
-      T vals[N_READS];
-      cub::LoadDirectBlockedVectorized<T, N_READS>(
-          block.thread_rank(),
-          in + loop.location() + r * BLOCK_DIM * N_READS,
-          vals);
-      for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
-        total[0] = op(total[0], cast_to<U>(vals[i]));
-      }
+  // Unaligned reduce
+  if (final_offset < args.row_size) {
+    bool mask[N_READS];
+    for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
+      mask[i] =
+          (final_offset + block.thread_rank() * N_READS + i) < args.row_size;
     }
-    if (final_offset < args.row_size) {
-      T vals[N_READS];
-      cub::LoadDirectBlocked(
-          block.thread_rank(),
-          in + loop.location() + final_offset,
-          vals,
-          args.row_size - final_offset,
-          cast_to<T>(init));
-      for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
-        total[0] = op(total[0], cast_to<U>(vals[i]));
+
+    for (size_t n = 0; n < args.non_row_reductions; n++) {
+      const T* inlocal = in + loop.location();
+
+      for (size_t r = 0; r < full_blocks; r++) {
+        auto vals = load_vector<N_READS>(inlocal, 0);
+        for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
+          total[0] = op(total[0], cast_to<U>(vals[i]));
+        }
+        inlocal += block.size() * N_READS;
       }
+
+      {
+        T vals[N_READS];
+        for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
+          vals[i] = mask[i] ? inlocal[i] : cast_to<T>(init);
+        }
+        for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
+          total[0] = op(total[0], cast_to<U>(vals[i]));
+        }
+      }
+
+      loop.next(args.reduce_shape.data(), args.reduce_strides.data());
+    }
+  }
+
+  // Aligned case
+  else {
+    for (size_t n = 0; n < args.non_row_reductions; n++) {
+      const T* inlocal = in + loop.location();
+
+      for (size_t r = 0; r < full_blocks; r++) {
+        auto vals = load_vector<N_READS>(inlocal, 0);
+        for (int i = 0; i < N_READS; i++) {
+          total[0] = op(total[0], cast_to<U>(vals[i]));
+        }
+        inlocal += block.size() * N_READS;
+      }
+
+      loop.next(args.reduce_shape.data(), args.reduce_strides.data());
     }
-    // TODO: Maybe block.sync() here?
-    loop.next(args.reduce_shape.data(), args.reduce_strides.data());
   }
 
   __shared__ U shared_accumulators[32];
@@ -234,8 +236,6 @@ void row_reduce_simple(
     Reduce::ReduceType reduce_type,
     const std::vector<int>& axes,
     const ReductionPlan& plan) {
-  constexpr int N_READS = 8;
-
   // Allocate data for the output using in's layout to avoid elem_to_loc in the
   // kernel.
   allocate_same_layout(out, in, axes);
@@ -250,14 +250,15 @@ void row_reduce_simple(
       using T = cuda_type_t<MLX_GET_TYPE(type_tag)>;
       using U = typename cu::ReduceResult<OP, T>::type;
 
-      // Cub doesn't like const pointers for vectorized loads. (sigh)
-      T* indata = const_cast<T*>(in.data<T>());
+      constexpr int N_READS = 16 / sizeof(T);
 
       // Calculate the grid and block dims
       size_t reductions = (plan.shape.back() + N_READS - 1) / N_READS;
       dim3 grid = get_2d_grid_dims(out.shape(), out.strides());
-      int threads = std::min(1024UL, reductions);
-      threads = ((threads + WARP_SIZE - 1) / WARP_SIZE) * WARP_SIZE;
+      int warps = (reductions + WARP_SIZE - 1) / WARP_SIZE;
+      warps /= 4;
+      warps = std::max(std::min(warps, 32), 1);
+      int threads = warps * WARP_SIZE;
       dim3 block(threads, 1, 1);
 
       // Pick the kernel
@@ -267,6 +268,7 @@ void row_reduce_simple(
         kernel = cu::row_reduce_simple<T, U, OP, N_READS, 2>;
       }
 
+      T* indata = const_cast<T*>(in.data<T>());
       int size = plan.shape.back();
       encoder.add_kernel_node(
           kernel, grid, block, 0, indata, out.data<U>(), out.size(), size);
@@ -282,8 +284,6 @@ void row_reduce_looped(
     const std::vector<int>& axes,
     const ReductionPlan& plan,
     cu::RowReduceArgs args) {
-  constexpr int N_READS = 8;
-
   // Allocate data for the output using in's layout to access them as
   // contiguously as possible.
   allocate_same_layout(out, in, axes);
@@ -295,34 +295,27 @@ void row_reduce_looped(
       using OP = MLX_GET_TYPE(reduce_type_tag);
       using T = cuda_type_t<MLX_GET_TYPE(type_tag)>;
       using U = typename cu::ReduceResult<OP, T>::type;
-      // Cub doesn't like const pointers for vectorized loads. (sigh)
-      T* indata = const_cast<T*>(in.data<T>());
+
+      constexpr int N_READS = 16 / sizeof(T);
 
       // Calculate the grid and block dims
       args.sort_access_pattern(in, axes);
       dim3 grid = get_2d_grid_dims(out.shape(), out.strides());
       size_t reductions = (args.row_size + N_READS - 1) / N_READS;
-      int threads = std::min(1024UL, reductions);
-      threads = ((threads + WARP_SIZE - 1) / WARP_SIZE) * WARP_SIZE;
+      int warps = (reductions + WARP_SIZE - 1) / WARP_SIZE;
+      warps /= 4;
+      warps = std::max(std::min(warps, 32), 1);
+      int threads = warps * WARP_SIZE;
       dim3 block(threads, 1, 1);
 
       // Pick the kernel
-      auto kernel = cu::row_reduce_looped<T, U, OP, 1, 32, N_READS>;
+      auto kernel = cu::row_reduce_looped<T, U, OP, 1, N_READS>;
       dispatch_reduce_ndim(args.reduce_ndim, [&](auto reduce_ndim) {
-        dispatch_block_dim(threads, [&](auto threads_constant) {
-          kernel = cu::row_reduce_looped<
-              T,
-              U,
-              OP,
-              reduce_ndim.value,
-              threads_constant.value,
-              N_READS>;
-          block.x = threads_constant.value;
-        });
+        kernel = cu::row_reduce_looped<T, U, OP, reduce_ndim.value, N_READS>;
       });
 
       encoder.add_kernel_node(
-          kernel, grid, block, 0, indata, out.data<U>(), out.size(), args);
+          kernel, grid, block, 0, in.data<T>(), out.data<U>(), args);
     });
   });
 }